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Pretty on the outside and ugly on the inside prototype

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So I’ve been busy doing a bunch of computer maintenance and looking into other things I’ve neglected while building the roaster so it’s been a bit slow.  I decided I wanted to start gluing corners together and drilling some holes to see how the case goes together so I can eventually get back to fixing the issues with the roast controller case.  Over the past several weeks I soldered together all of the boards, made wiring harnesses and figured out a bunch of “oops” moves I had made designing things when I got rushed for time.

Turns out I was not able to get stand offs locally in the sizes I had wanted so the heights are all screwed up where I placed holes on the outside surfaces.  I also forgot to specifically allocate power for the exhaust fan in the original design BUT I did have “Spare” pins allocated. The fan I ordered also was not the right size for the hole template I had used (Inside fan dimension vs outside screw / case dimension)… neither of them were actually labeled right the way every other fan I have is sized.

So with everything screwed or harnessed in place this is what I have for the Arduino…

The Arduino wired for Coffee Roaster control

It is a MEGA2560 mounted on a Crib for Arduino.  On top is an Ethernet Shield w/ microSD slot.  Then I used a variety of crimped headers to connect to some of the pins on the MEGA and on the ethernet shield.  I have twenty five lines in the bundle going to the Arduino.  I had some spare 10 strand cables from a project at Halloween and no 25 strand cables to use so I used one of those cable wraps to keep the all together after connecting DB25 to one end and header pins to the other.  Once the lid for the crib for Arduino is in place it then connects to the back of the enclosure.

Wiring Harness connecting to the back of the controller enclosure

As you may notice the sockets I was using for connecting the power out are the type that snap in.  The majority of these will not snap into most laser cut plastic sheets and instead are designed for aluminum cases.  The plug to the right on the other hand screws in.  These work great with a variety of thicker locations.  The fan was originally going to be on the inside with a wire cover on the outside but with the wrong size fan hole in use I had the wrong cover to fit the fans that I had that would fit the hole.

For the DB25 connectors it turned out good that I had decided to use a cut out pattern  that had the holes on the side for the anchoring hex nuts rather than just having them cut out so that I could mount them to the socket and anchor the connector.  Since the stand offs were too short they don’t allow me to anchor the PCBs to the bottom plate.  Instead I had to screw them to the back plate using normal screws and with the burnt circles on the laser cut work I had to use some washers too to keep it sturdy.  This is what the back plate looks like.

Rear Panel of controller

This panel includes – One non-filtered switched 15Amp Power Entry module, 2 snap in 15 amp convenience plugs, 1 5VDC fan, 2 DB-25.  The left one is the main guts for the LCD, TRIAC control, potentiometers, thermocouple, and a variety of other sensors.  The right includes all the non-essential stuff for backlighting all the buttons on the button pad and a few other things including spare wiring.  You cna see just a screw on the right since it was relatively intact and so it won’t block the DB25 plug being used.  The right DB25 has washers and screws in place.  These are primarily used to attached the PCB in place attached to the back side.

Next up is the inside view of the electronics area:

Rear View of the Back Panel

Rear view of the back panel.  I need to shrink up the crimp connectors around the wire  (they shrink like heat shrink tubing but is actually much firmer).  Also the connector on the right side (the switched power entry module) should have the screws more securely fastened with nuts and washers but this is mainly just a test to ensure it all fits together and then allow me to focus on some programming for a while to see if I can get more working and develop menus etc.  The clear acrylic bar is used to anchor the corners better.  I need to change the locations of the screws since I could not find screws the size I wanted without spending way too much for large quantities of them on the internet and having them shipped to me etc.  The thermocouple board on the right had the same issue with the stand offs so it is just floating loose in there right now.  I need to find somewhere to get the Omron thermocouple sockets where I dont need to order them by the 1000s since it looks like Ryan McLaughlin has stopped selling things on his site when they (used to) have problems getting the newer MAXIM thermocouple chip.  They’re all over the place now but he hasn’t restarted his store up so I don’t know the deal there.

Here is the view down into the enclosure from above:

Top view into enclosure

With the cover on:

Front panel installed on enclosure

Front panel running

Front Panel Running

When I send it back out again for a new case I hope to have a different board to install that will be switching the smaller breakout boards being designed onto the circuit board as well as add a power supply and possibly having an arduino board mated on top of the circuit board perhaps to bring more of the electronics inside.  I might want to try to get a Digilent board perhaps to try converting to it as a transition between Arduino and PIC32 before I completely switch to a dedicated PIC32.

I’ve also been looking at possibly creating a dedicated PC application to communicate with it directly via USB and over ethernet.  I am toying around with the “QT/QML” language but havent gotten too far with it.  I may just go back to Processing though.

Ahh the smell of progress… roasting coffee!

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So as I mentioned yesterday I roasted some coffee.  This time (except for manual control of the fan) the roaster did it all by itself.  I had given it a handicap of limiting power to the heater only to 85% of the capacity but it appears to have worked ok.  The Arduino roaster controller worked well enough considering the state it is in.  Power control from the Arduino worked for manual potentiometer signaling the fan speed and a data array of settings for the heat controlled the roast automatically trying to maintain the temperature.

I’m going to increase the power again to 90%.  The room temperature was around 45-50 degrees since I roasted it out in my garage so I think it did pretty well getting to temperature.  I’ve also bumped the fan up slightly to a higher maximum.

I will need to get a button controller going soon so that I can force the system from automatic into manual mode so I can quickly shut down heat if necessary without having the laptop connected while letting the fan continue to run.  I’ve got a CAD type design of a PCB going that has a button controller but I haven’t ACTUALLY prototyped it out on some RadioShack boards.  I do have some etch-able boards here to try a toner transfer to build out some controls.  I still need some carbide drill bits though for drilling the through hole parts and the jumper connectors.  If I had SMD header pins I think I actually have all the parts I’d need to build a 6 or 7 button analog pin matrix.  I may need a couple more resistors though to pull that off.  I’m pretty sure I could get at least 4 buttons though.

The power control system had started to get out of control with the heat sinks so I had to beef it up some.  Before anyone says it I know the large heat sink is on upside down.  I didn’t want to drill the board before I was sure it was going to work so those bottom pins are sticking out the top.  I’ll probably run it like this for a little while until I make a permanent board though.

So for those of you keeping track… I went from this:

First working prototype in Radioshack Project Case

To this:

This is MUCH better for the following reason…heat sinks got out of control and all the wires were getting obnoxious:

Next Steps?

  1. Increase allowed power to heater
  2. Make button control pad.
  3. Tune PID.
  4. Improve CSV log system.
  5. Add automation to the Fan control.  Use mild PID triggered adjustments to the fan.  Coarse heat changes by heater.  Minor heat changes (a few degrees) by Fan.
  6. Add current sensor to judge wattage to the heater.
  7. Get profiles loading from SD memory using button pad to select them.
  8. Begin creating circuit to connect my original PIC32 project to the arduino over serial / rx/tx or other communication method.
  9. Complete 7 inch touch screen (I have a screen designed but it’s not entirely stable yet… the backlight flickers occasionally and the image stutters here and there but it’s there…)  I’ll upload a bitmap from the layout tool soon.
  10. Migrate most functions to PIC32 eventually.
  11. Build a final PCB.
  12. Get a case made for it.
  13. Roast lots of coffee.
  14. Brew it.
  15. Drink it.

Nearing a rough prototype roast controller setup

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I haven’t had a lot of time to work on this project lately.  A few weeks ago I had ordered a variety of jumper/header crimp pins, housings, and tools to crimp with.  With those ends I’ve pieced together “arduino compatible” wiring harnesses to go between break out boards, arduino and to the perfboard and other pieces I’ve thrown together.  As a result I feel I am now approaching a rough prototype roast controller.

One of my other purchases was a “Crib for Arduino” to mount some of the pieces inside a box that were not already part of the RadioShack case pictured in my last blog entry.  Most of the crazy wiring on the Arduino photo has been woven together into separate bundles and connected directly to the DB25 connector cable which I’ve also been slowly crimping together.

I would have been testing the fan and heat controls last weekend (and when I had time this week) except that when I finally got it hooked up the fan and heat were no longer “smooth” but instead stuttered all over the place.  It had been quite a while since I had the Arduino side of it hooked up to the mains power so I had to go through and double check all the wiring in the harnesses and DB25 hookups.  Eventually I figured I’m either overloading it with the service schedule on reading sensors and writing to SD, updating the screen and not having time to trigger the mains voltage properly or else the timer wasn’t triggering properly.

Once I had confirmed all the wires were right I looked up the interrupt lines and timer lines in the Arduino website and realized the code probably had the wrong interrupt in there.  Several months ago while trying to clean up some of the code I remember having accidentally typed over the interrupt number in the attachinterrupt line and saved it without realizing it had been modified while updating other code.  Once I returned it back to the proper interrupt for the pin I was using everything worked again.

Tonight I tried running a load of beans through the roaster on fan only.  I believe my adjustments for the fan power are slightly off because the beans begin moving a tiny bit too far into the % potentiometer.  I’ll need to try running beans in an unmodified roaster and pay attention to the level of movement in both roasters based on the position of the knob.  If I had some sort of manometer it would probably help more but I don’t have one.  There are several DIY projects that appear to have built one that I’ve seen months ago that I might end up trying to look up again but I’ll have to see how well it goes without it.

This weekend I’ve got other things going on so it will probably be over the next week and following weekend that I try to calibrate the fan and then the heater.  Once I’ve accomplished both things I’ll begin testing the PID settings to see how well I can control everything to automate the roast

Once the automation appears to be working I do want to add a few additional sensors still.  I then will start working on an Arduino to PIC32 conversion of the controls adding the touch screen and using it to send instructions to the Arduino.  Then slowly migrating more and more sensors and devices back over to PIC32 until eventually I’ve eliminated the Arduino unless it proves helpful to have separate microcontrollers for specific functions.  There will probably be a basic Arduino compatible roast controller in between that will be built onto a PCB that will be professionally produced using one of the quick PCB prototype companies.

 

Arduino roaster controller with zero crossing dimmer

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With all the time I’ve put into the Pic32 roaster I’ve always had this nagging worry that any of my sensors may have had damage during testing. When you try to get something working and keep getting gibberish you need to find a way to rule that out. As a result I decided to purchase an Arduino a few months back to confirm everything works. Turns out (so far) that everything IS actually working and I didn’t damage any sensors.  In the months I’ve been working with the Arduino I’ve actually learned a few reasons why some of the sensors didnt work on the PIC32 the way I had programmed them because learning to program an Arduino is sooooooooooooooooo much easier and better documented for “average people” to figure out compared to reading the hundreds of pages of technical manual for the PIC32 that isn’t ACTUALLY even finished being written yet.  There is a ton of code out there to test every single sensor I’ve purchased so far on Arduino. In addition I decided it would be a great way to start the dimmer using zero crossing detection in a system that runs outside the PIC32 before I convert it.

My intention is to get basic functions working on Arduino, then get the PIC to talk to the Arduino to send it commands to switch power by itself while the PIC reads all the sensors and logs data and then decides what to do as it comes from the Arduino.  Finally it will eventually be migrated entirely to PIC32 when I learn more about the interrupts on PIC32. At the moment I’ve put together a board that takes in 120VAC and uses Q4015L5 Triacs and MOC3052 drivers to control power to two receptacles. It reads the zero cross on my power using a H11AA1 and gets an interrupt used to trigger power switching. During my initial testing I confirmed the zero cross detection circuit worked and switching the triacs manually on or off worked without  regard to the zero cross state. It unfortunately didn’t seem to actually switch automatically for some reason when I wanted it to dim.  After a few days of testing I realized the Arduino Mega and the Uno had the interrupt timer pins in different places.

Since this is the first mains power circuit I’ve worked on I started running it with a variac out in the garage (and then fed that out into the driveway at the end of an extension cord…) and gradually turned the power up from 0 to 120VAC testing each section as I built it to ensure nothing arced or got hot or burnt up.  During late November I hooked it to the Arduino and got it to begin adjusting fan and heater under PC control as well as using two separate knobs.  Later in December and January I got it to begin logging to SD memory and following a programmed profile.  After that I added a bunch of additional environmental sensors and mounted it in a RadioShack project case.

 

First working prototype in Radioshack Project Case

I’m now at a stage where I’m looking to consolidate the various sensor cards either down onto a circuit board or attached to a set of pins directly.  I’ve grown tired of accidentally unplugging random wires carrying it back and forth from the garage to my office area and out to the kitchen stove / vent at various stages.  My hope is to shrink it down to a much less complicated arrangement being mostly on a single circuit board and interfaced by a few short cables to the Arduino.  It’s a bit complicated currently and getting worse.

Jumble of Arduino stuff

For the Arduino I’m using the MEGA 2560.  It is attached to the power control box pictured above via the DB25 cable.  At this time the box only controls power but I’ve mapped out pins on the DB25 to use for future boards to allow sensor breakout boards from a variety of DIY electronics companies to plug into them.   I’ll break this out to various header pins that match various breakout boards so they can be directly attached.  I’ll probably also design positions for eventually soldering chips directly to a board later once I order them when I’m further along and jumper the headers into those sections.  This will let me test a circuit on the board while still ensuring it actually works with the breakout board first.  The board will be designed to replace the items in the RadioShack box using SMD parts in some cases where cheaper and more convenient to shrink the board down smaller.  I hope to have it all shrunk down and consolidated to a single board with a DB25 connector to get to an Arduino I’ll be mounting inside an Arduino Crib case.

FYI I’ve taken a tiny break…

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So as some of you may have guessed with the gaps between postings I have way too many hobbies.  One of them includes aquariums.  I only do freshwater stuff but I do more than “a goldfish in a bowl”.  Really I mainly focus on plants, shrimp, and a few not really extreme fish that are deemed compatible with the shrimp.  The plants need lots of light to make them grow which is why most people can’t keep aquarium plants alive.  The shrimp pick at the base of the plants pulling away the dead parts and look cool.

Several months ago I had some setbacks with some shrimp and some illnesses that came in with them.  I’ve decided to start over and build a setup that is designed to keep all of the conditions very solid that was hard to do in the “nano tank” that I had been using.  This resulted in ordering a new tank that came with a matching size stand that was unfinished.  I had to sand, finish, and assemble a stand and I’ve been throwing together a bunch of automated controllers that monitoring a variety of probes and adjust things…. not much different than controlling conditions in a coffee roaster.  Eventually I’ll be building my own control system for it and I’ll be selling off the existing control system that I’m installing just to get it running.

There is obviously value in “get it done now” vs building it yourself.  There is always a cost to results ratio that needs met to justify buying something or doing it yourself.  I think a lot of the coffee roasting world in the DIY arena operates in this world.  For people who cannot do it themselves and insist on programmability etc there are 800-900 dollar roaster systems.  For everyone else there is 150-500 dollar roasting setups.  Finally for those that want to make a 900 dollar roasting system on their own there’s Arduino and other micro controllers and the $9.99 Poppery roaster to the $200 random brand entry level roaster.

Anyway, I’m at a stage with the roaster that I need to hook up relays to cycle the heating systems on and off.  I’m probably going to order a second SR500 base from a site I found on the internet to take apart completely and splice these relays into it for the microcontroller to cycle.  I’m pondering the 3 stages of heat from the selector switch and actually cycling the power to the heater element.  I need to check some voltage readings from inside the roaster once I take it apart and decide if I want my controller sending signals in place of the switch to vary the desired heat status or just control the heater.  It might be easier to try controlling the fan speed first from my controller and then come back to the heater later.

For the moment I need to finish the fish tank stuff.  This weekend I’m trying to finish the under tank plumbing and then get the tank up on the stand.  The tank is an 18x18x18 25 gallon glass tank (no plastic, only a silicone seal between the glass).  I’m using a Neptune System Apex Controller underneath and am running all the sensors into the plumbing underneath.  The light on top is a 70 watt Metal Halide and the I’ve got CO2 gas bubbled into the plumbing based on the pH.  The entire thing gets logged and can be graphed onto a device web page.  I’m using an Eheim Ecco canister filter and running the output through a UV sterilizer, inline heater, and the CO2 reactor.  Later (once I get the right fittings) I’m mounting a IceProbe chiller inline through some plumbing as well.  I need to modify it with different fans to push air from inside the enclosure through the heat sink and then vent it out of the tank rather than blowing air down onto the heat sink.  The fan is pretty noisy so I’ll be replacing it with fans used to make super silent computer vent fans and running a series of small ones along the sides blowing inward and one large one up top to suck outward that will pass through the base enclosure wall.

I’m kind of discouraged in the coffee world right now.  Mainly I’ve been waiting for a good Ethiopian coffee to come in but this year has not been a good year for coffee.  I’m trying to figure out what else I want to try as my “base” coffee for the ongoing roasting experiments.  I really need to have a base to compare one roast to the next as I adjust the programming on the controller rather than having different beans roast after roast.  I just havent found anything I want to drink week after week while I work out the kinks.

FreshRoast SR500 Wattage

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Earlier in the blog I posted photos showing the circuit boards inside the roaster that were labeled 1000W.  The roaster was reported as being 1500W and it’s a pretty major deal to be 1000W vs 1500W.  After looking back at the blog and some of the things I’ve worked with and struggled it made me wonder more about the wattages used by the SR500.  Additionally it seems there are a lot of people that come to this blog looking for information about how many watts the SR500 is.

In the interest of providing accurate information I went out and got a device for measuring wattage drawn by a device.  Upon plugging it in I discovered that the SR500 draws .8 Watts in “idle” mode.  For comparison a coffee pot I had here with only an Off/Timer/On toggle button and a button to let you change the clock and a tiny little LCD you can’t even REALLY see except when trying to look at it to program the start brew time was drawing 1.2-1.5 watts.  When I turned on  the coffee pot it went to around 1460-1470 watts.

Back to the coffee roaster the manufacturer reported it as 1500watts.  Looking at the circuit board it seemed to show 1000W on one of the labels.  Turns out it is indeed 1500 watts when running full force as described.  I have no idea why the circuit board reports 1000 watts.  I started thinking maybe there is something with the electronics and mainly the fan that would suck up a significant amount of wattage while it was turned on.  Knowing the model of processor inside the circuit and the other parts there was not a lot of electric being consumed.  This was proven when looking at the cool cycle.  First let’s start with the typical roast numbers.

Starting we have .8 Watts  in a sort of standby mode waiting for the controls to turn the roast on. [Edit 4/14/11 – The meter in a sort of standby of its own with nothing plugged into it runs about .5 watts.  This means the roaster in standby probably consumes something more like .3 watts.]  Once I turned on power it lurched upward and for many of the settings hovered +/-  one to five watts one way or the other from the following numbers:

Fan / Heat / Wattage Reported

Low / Low / 1420
Med / Low / 1475
High / Low / 1500
Low / Med / 1420
Med / Med / 1475
High / Med / 1508
Low / High / 1420
Med / High / 1475
High / High / 1505 to 1520

The wattages slowly ticked up and down without seeming to be connected too heavily to anything in particular that was going on.  This was measured WITHOUT the roasting chamber in place allowing the roaster to simply run full force.  When I have more time I’ll run a regular roast through and see if there is any significant peak points where the numbers differ much fluctuating during the roast and if there is a pattern to any of it.  This leads to cooling.

Cooling for all intents and purposes is the roaster running with all electronics EXCEPT for the heater.  This is particularly interesting because the amounts that the wattage changes is not necessarily reflected on each of the tiers for the fan/heater combo.

High Fan / Cool / 182 watts
Med Fan / Cool / 148 watts
Low Fan / Cool / 107 watts

As you can see the wattage of the roaster is pretty reasonable to be called 1500 watts.  You cannot say that the HEATER is 1500 watts….  but it IS a 1500+ watt device like most other items advertised that way.  Why the internal parts are labeled 1000w I cannot imagine.  My guess is there may have been an earlier design that reused the same circuit board to control things and it just needed a stronger heater element.

The roaster appears to not vary the heat outside of the full power to the heater element and then it turns off when the LOW/MED/HI threshold is met.  I expect to see the wattage go from 1400-1500ish down to the 140-180 range every time the heater cycles the way this looks.

For those looking for an update on SD memory I am pleased to say that I found the problems with the SD memory wiring that were actually conflicting with more pins than I knew.  I also found a couple other places that were conflicting randomly that I had odd symptoms that I had not traced yet.  How did I do this?  I blew up the datasheet pin diagram from 8.5 x 11 to 3 feet by around 2 feet something after color coding a few of the pin types and then systematically crossing out a few pins that I have no control over which ones are used because they either HAVE TO be used due to existing circuit boards on the development kit or else there are so many other pins being used in a “set” that I cannot use that function.  Examples would be if you needed to use UART1 TX/RX.  These are on pins RF2 and RF8.  ALSO living on these pins are SDI and SDO #3.  Obviously if you use UART 1 those pins are tied up and now you cannot use SPI (SDI/SDO) set number 3.

Once I cross those functions off the list it makes it soooo much easier to find all the other functions that I need to place or can place in other locations.  I’m gradually transferring these items into a schematic building power supplies and VGA interfaces etc onto them.  I’m beginning to get closer and closer to having created a full schematic for the entire project up to this point.  I can convert that schematic into a circuit board layout and after a few more rounds of tests and seeing if I can figure out a few more sensors I’ll probably be ready to test out a preliminary test board that will become a “condensed” development platform.  This will let me test 1) building circuit boards, 2) knowing that I’m close to getting a functional system, and 3) having a lot less junk on my desk.

I’ve now managed to get time and date stamp and temperature readings sending to a CSV file that loads easily into Excel that I can apply a chart to.  Next up — Roasting something to get real temperature numbers.